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189: You Had to Opt in for That

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Charles Thomson, Shawn Shackelford, and Charlie Carter join forces for the first regular episode of Season 12, catching up on all the latest news in the world of Michael Jackson and the Jackson family. They discuss the very sad passings of Toyia Jackson, Bryan Loren and Rev. Jesse Jackson, as well as updates on Heal LA events this summer, developments regarding the Cascio vs. MJ Estate Case, a new Channel 4 Trial series, a TMZ MJ documentary, more MJ-related books, and a correction of a previously-released MJ short film restoration. Plus, Damien Shields joins in for a chat regarding the recent, major leak of Michael Jackson music.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Discussion Topics
• Bryan Loren has died.
• Dr. Toyia Jackson has died, after a battle with cancer.
• Rev. Jesse Jackson has died.
• “King of Popcorn” events return to Hayvenhurst this summer.
• Sexyy Red’s X-Rated “Beat It” Flip Goes Viral, and Estate is not pleased.
• Judge Signals Arbitration in Cascio vs. MJ Estate Case.
• Channel 4 releases “Michael Jackson: The Trial” series.
• Michael Jackson appears in Epstein Files photos, and Macaulay Culkin video is debunked as fake.
• TMZ releases new documentary: ‘Michael Jackson: 30 Fatal Seconds’.
• “Black or White” short film is restored to its original vision, now including the full panther dance sequence.
• Joe Vogel releases a new book, Black or White: Inside Michael Jackson’s Most Controversial Film.
• Teddy Riley releases his memoir, Remember the Times.
• Massive Michael Jackson music leak.

Finds of the Week
• Charles Thomson – Nine Sixteenths, a Janet Jackson play, is touring the UK.
• Charlie Carter – Moonwalkeris coming to Netflix.
• Shawn Shackelford – Jael Rucker’s MJ articles in Decked Out Magazine.

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188: Michael Trailer Roundtable

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Bobby Huntley, Hannah Savage, and first-time guest Stepfan Holley join host Shawn Shackelford to kick off Season 12 of The MJCast, following the release of the full trailer for the highly anticipated Michael biopic, set to hit theaters worldwide on April 24, 2026.

In this in-depth roundtable discussion, the team unpacks one of the most talked-about moments in the Michael Jackson community in years. The trailer—like the teaser released in November—quickly shattered viewership records, making it a record-breaking launch for a music biopic and the largest trailer debut in Lionsgate studio history, igniting passionate reactions across the internet.

In this episode, the panel slows the conversation down, moving beyond knee-jerk reactions to thoughtfully examine what the trailer shows, what it withholds, and the expectations it sets for how Michael Jackson’s story may be told on the big screen. Topics include initial emotional responses, visual effects and digital polish, pacing and imagery, the portrayal of key figures, speculation about narrative choices, and broader questions surrounding audience, authenticity, and legacy. Along the way, there are plenty of strong opinions, sharp observations, and moments of genuine reflection.

Whether you’re exhilarated, cautious, or somewhere in between, one thing is clear: 2026 is shaping up to be the Year of Michael—and this conversation is just the beginning.

This episode was edited by Simon Wilkie.

Participants
• Bobby Huntley
• Hannah Savage
• Stepfan Holley
• Shawn Shackelford

Additional Links
• Official trailer on YouTube.

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187: Season Eleven Christmas Special

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Taj Jackson joins Shawn Shackelford, Charles Thomson, and Charlie Carter to celebrate the holidays and reflect on this past year… Welcome to The MJCast’s 11th annual Christmas special!

The gang discusses the year that was on Season 11 of The MJCast, as well as all the recent news in the world of Michael Jackson and the Jackson family, including Jermaine Jackson’s announcement of a “Jackson Museum”, the passing of guitarist and composer Phil Upchurch, MJ-related legal twists and turns for artist Brett-Livingstone Strong, Michael Jackson inspiration appearing in major films and TV shows, reactions to the one-and-only Jamon Bull stepping down from The MJCast, an exciting vinyl release from the Michael Jackson Estate, and much more. Plus, the team looks ahead to Season 12, and has fun with the annual bloopers reel.

Special thanks to Taj Jackson for being a part of our annual Christmas Special for many years. Here’s to many more!

And, huge thanks to all of our listeners and MJFam around the world. We could not do this without you. Wishing you a happy 2026 to come! (Elise sends her love to all listeners and MJ friends, as well. She had a scheduling issue and could not participate in this episode.)

This episode was edited by Simon Wilkie.

Discussion Topics
• The year that was…
• Charlie Thomson is now the longest serving member of the team!
• Unreleased video from the preparations for the HBO special “One Night Only”
• Jermaine Jackson Announces Plans for a ‘Jackson Museum’ in Monaco
• Phil Upchurch, Guitarist and Composer for Michael Jackson, Dies
• Court Says Michael Jackson Copyrights Can Be Sold to Pay Artist’s Debts
• “Cry” celebrated with a “blurry, blocky, visibly degraded version of the short film” on official Michael Jackson channels
• Michael Jackson’s ‘Smooth Criminal’ Inspired Key Scene in the Wicked Film
• “Rockin’ Robin” Lands in Stranger Things Season 5
• Bruno Mars Channels Michael Jackson
• Reactions to Jamon Bull stepping down from The MJCast (we love you, Jamon!)
• NUMBER ONES will be released on vinyl
• Season 11 Blooper Reel
• Looking back, and looking forward…

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186: Destiny Roundtable

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Destiny, released in 1978, marked a seismic shift for The Jacksons — a bold declaration of creative independence, a spiritual and sonic rebirth, and a pivotal step in the journey that would launch Michael Jackson into superstardom. Having broken away from the constraints of Motown in 1975, the group spent years redefining their sound under Philadelphia International’s Gamble and Huff before finally taking complete control of their music with Destiny, their first self-written and self-produced album.

But was Destiny just a comeback album, or something far more profound?

In this roundtable episode, host Shawn Shackelford is joined by panelists Scorpeze, Samar Habib, and Jay Leggett to explore every corner of this often-overlooked masterpiece. From its gospel-fueled grooves and bold horn arrangements to its raw, personal lyricism and prophetic themes, the panel traces how Destiny not only signaled The Jacksons’ artistic autonomy but served as a critical bridge between the group’s legacy and Michael’s solo evolution.

The team unpacks the cultural and historical context of Destiny’s release, including the brothers’ exit from Motown, their variety show, and Michael’s early creative partnership with his brother, Randy. They dig into the musical inspirations behind the record — from Earth, Wind & Fire to Stevie Wonder — and examine how tracks like “Blame It on the Boogie,” “Push Me Away,” “Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)” and “That’s What You Get (For Being Polite)” laid the foundation for the innovation of Off the Wall and beyond.

This in-depth, thought-provoking discussion celebrates an album that didn’t just reintroduce The Jacksons — it redefined them. Revisit the songs, stories, and struggles behind Destiny in a full track-by-track discussion, and consider whether it deserves a much more prominent place in the canon of pop and R&B history.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Participants
• Shawn Shackelford
• Scorpeze
• Samar Habib
• Jay Leggett

Additional Links
• Destiny Era
• New Yorker Magazine article about the Jacksons Leaving Motown, July 1975
• Gregg Cobarr’s Photographic Flashbacks with Michael Jackson, August 16, 1978
• Record Mirror interview with Paul Sexton, October 7, 1978
• The Jacksons’ 10th Anniversary Special in Billboard (Pgs. 47-62), November 18, 1978
• The Jacksons interview with Blues and Soul, February 1979
• Review of The Jacksons’ February 23-24, 1979 concerts in London, England at the Rainbow Theatre for the “Destiny World Tour”-Black Echoes- March 3, 1979
• Star Trak Westwood One Interview with The Jacksons, May 28, 1979
• LP Promo-Destiny album disc interviews the Jacksons, 1980
• “Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)” Demo
• Executive Producer, Bobby Colomby interview
• Michael “Mick” Jackson discusses “Blame it on the Boogie”

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185: Thank You and Keep Michaeling

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In this episode, Jamon Bull, co-founder and co-host of The MJCast for eleven seasons, discusses his decision to step back from the show. Innumerable memories have been made, friendships formed, and a record of the King of Pop’s iconic legacy has been captured through Jamon’s tireless work. The show will continue on, in a slightly new form, even in light of this bittersweet news. Jamon: We love you and will miss you.

In his last regular episode, Jamon joins Elise Capron, Charles Thomson, Q, Charlie Carter, and Shawn Shackelford for a massive catch-up on all the latest news in the world of Michael Jackson and the Jackson family. They discuss Mariah Carey’s recent reveal about an unreleased duet with the King of Pop, a possible upcoming album in tribute to Michael Jackson’s Ireland sessions, legal updates around the Cascio Family and Jackson Estate, Paris Jackson’s continuing public alarm-ringing over Estate legal fees, major fan events around the US, Finds of the Week, and more.

This episode was edited by Simon Wilkie.

Discussion Topics
• Rest in peace Roberta Martin. We love you.
• Musician D’Angleo has passed away at age 51.
• Mariah Carey reveals unreleased duet with Michael Jackson.
• The Michael Jackson estate paid $2.5mn to Cascio Family, with private arbitration decision ahead.
• Frank Cascio breaks his silence on the new allegations.
• Paris Jackson continues to raise alarm over estate legal fees.
• Belinda Dileo has gone public over her concerns regarding the biopic.
• This is Thriller happened on Halloween in LA.
• Kingvention happened in NYC.
• London version of “MJ: The Musical” to close before embarking on a national tour.
• “MJ: The Musical” heading to Brisbane before moving on to Perth.
• Jamon has decided to step back from The MJCast.

Finds of the Week
• Jamon Bull – Motown 25 rehearsal snippet
• Q – brainrot fun and Give In To Me appreciation reel
• Shawn – Full soundboard recordings of the “Destiny” (Memphis 11/25/79) and “Triumph” (Chicago 05/09/81) tours. Plus, his great story of meeting Jackie & Marlon Jackson, with an assist from Brandi Jackson. 
• Charlie Carter – MJ Tribute Artist
• Elise Capron – Kpop Demon Hunters and Captain EO unite!

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184: Michael Teaser Roundtable

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Q, Charles Thomson, Paul Black, Shawn Shackelford, and Charlie Carter join host Elise Capron to discuss the recently released teaser trailer for the ‘Michael’ biopic, which will hit theaters around the world on April 24, 2026. The just-over-one-minute-long trailer dropped unexpectedly on November 6, 2025, and immediately broke records, racking up 116.2 million views globally within its first 24 hours, making it “the largest 24-hour trailer launch ever in Lionsgate‘s history and the most-viewed trailer for any music biopic or concert movie in motion picture history”, according to Deadline.

In this chat, the team shares their hot takes and comments on everything from the most thrilling moments of the teaser to complaints about factual inaccuracies, and dissect the editing quality, Jaafar Jackson’s look as the King of Pop, make guesses about what we might see in the final film based on this short, but punchy, presentation, and much more.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Participants
• Elise Capron
• Charles Thomson
• Charlie Carter
• Shawn Shackelford
• Q
• Paul Black

Additional Links
• Official teaser trailer on YouTube.

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173: Gregg Wright Special

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Gregg Wright joins Jamon Bull and Shawn Shackelford for a fascinating interview about Gregg’s time working with the King of Pop, as guitarist on the Victory Tour.

Gregg has been called “one of the most innovative guitarists of our time”. He began his professional career on the U.S. Southern circuit in the mid-1970s, and honed his craft with years of playing one-nighters across the Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Louisiana and Texas, often opening shows for the big national touring acts of the day. An ’80s move from Louisiana to Los Angeles saw Wright become a session man and “hired gun” touring guitarist. His reputation grew over the next decade doing albums and tours with Mick Fleetwood, Michael Jackson, and the Gap Band.

In this interview, the guys chat with Gregg about his incredible career, how he came to be hired for the iconic Victory tour, and what it was like being a live music collaborator with Michael Jackson.

This episode was edited by Jamon Bull.

Additional Links
• Gregg Wright’s Instagram and website.
• Brice Najar’s interview with Gregg.
• The Jacksons’ Victory Tour live in Toronto (1984).

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169: I’m Going to Have to Start Selling Some Organs

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Jamon Bull welcomes back MJCast co-founder Q, along with frequent show guest Shawn Shackelford, MJ Radio’s Jason Garcia, and YouTuber Hannah Savage for a big fan chat around news and updates in the world of Michael Jackson. They discuss the announcement of a new docuseries and album for The Jacksons, MJ birthday celebrations in Vegas, recent “wins” by the Estate, including acquiring Steve Porcaro’s music rights, defeating Katherine Jackson in court, and a California judge ruling against Robson and Safechuck in allowing access to past court files, updates on Taj Jackson’s journey to defend his uncle’s legacy, recent and upcoming fan events, and much more. Lots of major news items happened in the days immediately following the recording of this episode. The MJCast will be releasing a follow-up episode soon to address new developments.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Discussion Topics
• Linda Deutsch has passed away at age 80.
• A new Jacksons docu-series and album are in the works.
• Don’t stop till Kamala Harris is president.
• Michael Jackson’s estate hosts a 66th birthday celebration, including an uninspiring Vegas event (with zero news on the biopic).
• It’s over for Katherine Jackson vs The Estate.
• IPSO rejects Taj Jackson’s complaint.
• Taj Jackson has launched Righting HIStory website.
• Judge says no to use the precedent criminal case files.
• Steve Porcaro is selling his music rights to the Estate.
• Jamon and Q, are you going?!
• Kingvention coming to LA on October 12 (Elise will be there).
• Heal LA has been doing King of Popcorn movie nights this year (Elise attended June date), and will be doing This Is Thriller in October.
• The return of Fuzzball?
• Glendale’s Mayor declares Michael Jackson Remembrance Day.

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154: It’s Really Really Season Nine

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Brad Sundberg, Michael Jackson’s Technical Director, is celebrating ten years as the host of “In the Studio with MJ“, a touring seminar exploring Michael’s music.

But in January of this year he fell victim to a crime which sent shockwaves through the fan community, when his personal equipment was stolen by a bootlegger, who raided and released the contents.

In his first and only interview about the devastating theft, he speaks to The MJCast co-hosts Elise Capron, Jamon Bull, and guest host Shawn Shackelford.

Kicking off Season Nine of The MJCast, Brad explains for the first time how the thief made off with hundreds of unreleased Michael Jackson songs and videos and the impact that has had on Brad’s personal and professional lives.

He also shares stories from his time working with the King of Pop, explains what it takes to run a touring seminar on the scale of ITSWMJ, and reveals what’s next for Brad Sundberg.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Participants
• Elise Capron
• Jamon Bull
• Shawn Shackelford
• Brad Sundberg

Additional Links
• The “In the Studio with MJ” website and new merch
• Brad Sundberg’s Facebook, Instagram and Twitter pages
• The MJCast 015: Brad Sundberg Special
• The MJCast 142: Reflections on John Barnes Roundtable
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152: Thriller 40 Roundtable

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Michael Jackson’s album, Thriller, is undoubtedly one of the most iconic and important albums in music history. Released 40 years ago, on November 30, 1982, it changed the landscape of pop music, and may have even saved the music industry itself.

In this episode, Charlie Carter hosts a deep-dive fan discussion reflecting on all things Thriller 40. Joining him are guests Damien Shields, Shawn Shackelford, and Paul Black. The guys talk about the continuing influence of Thriller, the bonus tracks included on the 40th anniversary edition, the long-awaited release of the 4K versions of the short films “Thriller” and “Beat It”, the upcoming documentary by Nelson George, and they contemplate what they would have liked to see on their own version of the Thriller 40 release.

This episode was edited by Jason Garcia and Charlie Carter.

Participants
• Charlie Carter, Audio Producer of The MJCast
• Damien Shields, author of Michael Jackson: Songs & Stories From The Vault, and creator of the podcast series The Genesis of Thriller and the upcoming Faking Michael.
• Shawn Shackelford, long-time Jacksons fan and regular guest of The MJCast.
• Paul Black, Sydney-based Film editor, and Friend of the Show (whom we’re happy to have back on after a long absence!)

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