145: Vindication Day Special with Brett Barnes

It is almost thirty years since Brett Barnes last spoke to a journalist. The last time he gave an interview was in 1993, aged eleven, when he took to the airwaves to defend his friend Michael Jackson against allegations that he was a molester of young boys. But the Barnes family quickly learned not to engage with the media when it came to Jackson. Attempts by tabloid reporters to hunt them down after that became so intrusive that they were driven from their home for months. When they went off grid, media outlets instead began offering tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to anybody who was prepared to say they’d seen him behave inappropriately with young friends like Brett Barnes.

Ever since then, ugly, graphic sexual allegations about Jackson and Brett have been published in books, magazines and newspapers and have been broadcast by trashy tabloid TV shows. Rarely, if ever, has anybody sought to fact-check the stories – nor have outlets ever really seemed to care when Brett explicitly refuted them. But for almost three decades, he chose to bite his tongue rather than engage with a media industry that seemed to have its own agenda.

In 2019, Brett – by then happily settled down with his wife and their young children – had his peace shattered by a reality TV show called Leaving Neverland. Strangers on the internet began contacting him to warn him that the show included his name and likeness and strongly insinuated that Jackson had sexually abused him – something nobody involved in making the show had seen fit to inform him of. He immediately contacted its maker, HBO, to strenuously deny the claims and request that they be removed. HBO told him to get lost and the show was sold all over the world, for consumption by millions of people. 

Since then, Brett’s world has been turned upside-down. Aggressive journalists have shown up on his doorstep and told him lies to try to trick him into giving them interviews. He has been harassed and trolled on a constant basis for three years by anonymous social media accounts, accusing him of being a liar, an enemy of abuse victims and a shill for a child molester. 

After three years of relentless abuse, defamation and invasion of his privacy, Brett decided it was finally time to speak out. On May 14th, 2022, he granted Charles Thomson a world exclusive, no-holds-barred interview. No question or topic was off limits. There was only one platform he was prepared to let broadcast it: The MJCast.

For the first time ever, he spoke in depth about his relationship with Jackson, starting from the very beginning and explaining how it evolved over almost 20 years – from witnessing first-hand the 1993 police raid of Neverland Ranch, to testifying at Jackson’s 2005 criminal trial, and all the way up to his final conversation with Jackson just days before his death. Along the way, for the first time ever, he had the opportunity to give unequivocal answers to the many allegations which had been published and broadcast about him over the years – a subject which caused him to become emotional on more than one occasion.

The conversation is being released on June 13th, 2022 – the 17th anniversary of the verdicts in Jackson’s 2005 criminal trial.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Additional Links
• Charles Thomson’s article “One of the Most Shameful Episodes In Journalistic History“.
• #TheMJCast133: Vindication Day Special With Carol LaMere
• #TheMJCast103: Vindication Day Special with Larry Nimmer
• #TheMJCast081: Vindication Day Special with Aphrodite Jones
• #TheMJCast058: Vindication Day Special (Pirates in Neverland: The Michael Jackson Allegations)
• #TheMJCast033: Vindication Day Special with Scott Ross
• #TheMJCast010: Vindication Day 10th Anniversary Special with Tom Mesereau

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15 Replies to “145: Vindication Day Special with Brett Barnes”

  1. Patrick Lambertson

    Great interview. I do wish it was asked if he had an opinion on why Jordy hasn’t said anything.

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  2. Jom

    Now watch the lying media. I bet they will not post this interview because it does not fit thier agenda in the lies the media love to push about Michael.

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    1. Joseph

      What About The Maid Who Used Work With Michael Jackson She Said She Saw Macaulay Culkin Jordy Brett Barnes Get
      molested

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      1. Schulman Magdalena

        She worked at Neverland in 1994 for two months. Michael was not even there, he was living in New York. She stole from Michael Jackson and got fired. Even now she still owes money to the estate. She sold on Ebay the key of Michael’s bedroom(how low can people go for money), a picture of Elvis and șo on. She even testified in the 2005 trial when she admitted (under cross-examination) that she saw nothing, She was paid for all those stories, everybody who was willing to say anything Bad about Michael Jackson was paid. She even sold a story about Michael and Lisa Marie Presley’s sex life even If the maid never met Lisa, Michael and Lisa were living in New York.

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  3. Des

    One of the best interviews on the Mj cast a beautiful and honest and humble man you are Brett Barnes don’t ever chance for anybody stay true to yourself and who you are that is why Michael Jackson kept you close to him till the end ,he was a good man and he tried to be good to everybody but he wasn’t stupid.So keep your head high speak the truth and don’t let anyone dirty your experience and your family’s with Michael Jackson and consider yourself lucky that you got to spend the time that you did with him the world is in desperate need of more people like Michael Jackson all the best for the future and thank you to you and to Charles.Now maybe an interview with Omer Bhatti will be good to

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  4. Joseph

    What About The Maid Who Used Work With Michael Jackson She Said She Saw Macaulay Culkin Jordy Chandler And Brett Barnes Get
    molested

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  5. Schulman Magdalena

    She worked at Neverland in 1994 for two months. Michael was not even there, he was living in New York. She stole from Michael Jackson and got fired. Even now she still owes money to the estate. She sold on Ebay the key of Michael’s bedroom(how low can people go for money), a picture of Elvis and șo on. She even testified in the 2005 trial when she admitted (under cross-examination) that she saw nothing, She was paid for all those stories, everybody who was willing to say anything Bad about Michael Jackson was paid. She even sold a story about Michael and Lisa Marie Presley’s sex life even If the maid never met Lisa, Michael and Lisa were living in New York.

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  6. L.i.am Melody

    Interesting podcast Charles Thompson is a hero in the Michael Jackson community. He is well-researched, well spoken, unbiased journalist. Thanks to all involved

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    1. Esperanza

      Thank you Bret for telling the truth. Great interview Charles, but I just wish you have asked a little more about his experience with Michael as a friend, and a mentor? I wish there have been more questions about how was Michael like as a human being… Or some more life anecdotes. He set the record straight in the beginning about the supposed abuse, so after we could have had some inside about Michael as a person. Maybe in another interview with Bret??Either way, thanks a lot, and stay strong.

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