185: Thank You and Keep Michaeling

In this episode, Jamon Bull, co-founder and co-host of The MJCast for eleven seasons, discusses his decision to step back from the show. Innumerable memories have been made, friendships formed, and a record of the King of Pop’s iconic legacy has been captured through Jamon’s tireless work. The show will continue on, in a slightly new form, even in light of this bittersweet news. Jamon: We love you and will miss you.

In his last regular episode, Jamon joins Elise Capron, Charles Thomson, Q, Charlie Carter, and Shawn Shackelford for a massive catch-up on all the latest news in the world of Michael Jackson and the Jackson family. They discuss Mariah Carey’s recent reveal about an unreleased duet with the King of Pop, a possible upcoming album in tribute to Michael Jackson’s Ireland sessions, legal updates around the Cascio Family and Jackson Estate, Paris Jackson’s continuing public alarm-ringing over Estate legal fees, major fan events around the US, Finds of the Week, and more.

This episode was edited by Simon Wilkie.

Discussion Topics
• Rest in peace Roberta Martin. We love you.
• Musician D’Angleo has passed away at age 51.
• Mariah Carey reveals unreleased duet with Michael Jackson.
• The Michael Jackson estate paid $2.5mn to Cascio Family, with private arbitration decision ahead.
• Frank Cascio breaks his silence on the new allegations.
• Paris Jackson continues to raise alarm over estate legal fees.
• Belinda Dileo has gone public over her concerns regarding the biopic.
• This is Thriller happened on Halloween in LA.
• Kingvention happened in NYC.
• London version of “MJ: The Musical” to close before embarking on a national tour.
• “MJ: The Musical” heading to Brisbane before moving on to Perth.
• Jamon has decided to step back from The MJCast.

Finds of the Week
• Jamon Bull – Motown 25 rehearsal snippet
• Q – brainrot fun and Give In To Me appreciation reel
• Shawn – Full soundboard recordings of the “Destiny” (Memphis 11/25/79) and “Triumph” (Chicago 05/09/81) tours. Plus, his great story of meeting Jackie & Marlon Jackson, with an assist from Brandi Jackson. 
• Charlie Carter – MJ Tribute Artist
• Elise Capron – Kpop Demon Hunters and Captain EO unite!

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184: Michael Teaser Roundtable

Q, Charles Thomson, Paul Black, Shawn Shackelford, and Charlie Carter join host Elise Capron to discuss the recently released teaser trailer for the ‘Michael’ biopic, which will hit theaters around the world on April 24, 2026. The just-over-one-minute-long trailer dropped unexpectedly on November 6, 2025, and immediately broke records, racking up 116.2 million views globally within its first 24 hours, making it “the largest 24-hour trailer launch ever in Lionsgate‘s history and the most-viewed trailer for any music biopic or concert movie in motion picture history”, according to Deadline.

In this chat, the team shares their hot takes and comments on everything from the most thrilling moments of the teaser to complaints about factual inaccuracies, and dissect the editing quality, Jaafar Jackson’s look as the King of Pop, make guesses about what we might see in the final film based on this short, but punchy, presentation, and much more.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Participants
• Elise Capron
• Charles Thomson
• Charlie Carter
• Shawn Shackelford
• Q
• Paul Black

Additional Links
• Official teaser trailer on YouTube.

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183: Faking Michael Special

Damien Shields, Dan Villalobos, James Alay, and Jamon Bull join Charles Thomson for a deep dive into the history behind, and making of, the ‘Faking Michael‘ investigative podcast series.

‘Faking Michael’ took the Michael Jackson fan community (and beyond) by storm one year ago, as a bombshell true crime series which tells the full story of the fraudulent tracks–dubbed the ‘Cascio Tracks’–on the posthumous ‘Michael’ album released in 2010. Damien Shields and his team, including The MJCast, have been investigating this case since that time. The podcast series takes the listener through every dramatic detail of the scandal, including Vera Serova’s 2014 lawsuit against Cascio, Porte, their production company, Sony Music and Jackson’s estate, which resulted in the removal of the tracks in 2022.

In this discussion, the guys tell the story behind the story, including how they worked together as a team, behind-the-scenes moments, the experience of researching the story and making the podcast, how the project has been received among fans and in the wider world, and what else is to come in the ‘Faking Michael’ journey.

This episode was edited by Jamon Bull and Charlie Carter.

Additional Links:
• You can learn more at https://www.fakingmichael.com.

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182: Akasha Richmond Special

Akasha Richmond joins Charles Thomson for a journey into the culinary and travel side of Michael Jackson’s life, as she relays stories from her years working for The King of Pop as his personal and concert tour chef.

Akasha met Michael Jackson in the early 1980s, when she and Mani Niall worked at the Golden Temple, a vegetarian restaurant in Los Angeles. Mani became Jackson’s first personal chef, while Akasha was hired for special dinner parties, including events at Hayvenhurst with guests such as Elizabeth Taylor, Gregory Peck, Sophia Loren, and more. Eventually, Akasha also started stepping in as Jackson’s chef when he traveled, when Mani was not available.

Akasha began traveling the world regularly with Jackson, cooking for him all across Europe, Asia, Australia, and beyond. She worked on both the BAD and the HIStory tours, and her mandate was to always keep The King of Pop healthy, with his favorite Mexican dishes and comfort food – always spicy!

Not only did Akasha develop a deep friendship with Michael Jackson, but she got to see the world, and developed a love of travel, during her years of touring. In this chat, she shares amazing memories, insights into Jackson’s life, and discusses how her experiences eventually led her to found a beloved LA restaurant, Akasha, and also, more recently, to start a food-focused travel company, Travel by Akasha.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Additional Links
• Akasha’s Culver City restaurant.
• Akasha’s travel company.

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181: They Put Salt in the Burger

Jamon Bull, Charles Thomson, and Charlie Carter join forces for a big catch-up on all the latest news in the world of Michael Jackson and the Jackson family. They discuss the major bombshell around Frank Cascio being revealed as the individual allegedly attempting to extort the Jackson Estate, Paris Jackson publicly questioning the Estate’s financial decisions, updates on MJ: The Musical in Australia, 3T’s European tour, Brad Sundberg’s fantastic HIStory 30 roundtable discussion, and Charlie’s exciting adventures in California.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter and Jamon Bull.

Discussion Topics
• Michael Madsen has died.
• Frank Cascio revealed as individual allegedly attempting to extort Estate.
• Paris Jackson has questioned the appropriateness of payouts made by the Estate.
• “MJ: The Musical” is heading to Melbourne in September.
• Brad Sundberg has released a collaborator roundtable for HIStory 30.
• Lil Baby claims there will be a new Michael Jackson feature on his upcoming album.
• 3T have commenced their European tour.
• Teddy Riley is set to release his memoirs, titled “Remember the Times”.
• Charlie’s adventures

Finds of the Week
• Charles Thomson – 1996 BRIT Awards story on Instagram.
• Charlie Carter – On This Day in Michael Jackson History, July 4 and Stories in the Room podcast.
• Jamon – The Bad World Tour’s Pensacola rehearsals.
• Elise – Court TV has posted the entire Dr. Conrad Murray trial online.

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180: Vindication Day Special with Josephine Zohny

Charles Thomson welcomes first-time guest Josephine Zohny to the show for this year’s Vindication Day Special.

Josie is a long-time Michael Jackson fan who became an important witness.

In the early 2000s, she found herself in the same university music program as Michael Jackson’s first accuser, Jordan Chandler. What she witnessed him saying left her in shock – and when Michael found himself under arrest and facing trial months later, she ended up on the defense witness list.

Josie was never called to the stand and remained silent for over a decade – until she was tracked down by journalist Danny Wu, who made her experiences of Jordan Chandler the narrative spine of his hit 2019 documentary, “Square One”.

Her own quote defines the film: “Every allegation is built on the ’93 allegations”.

In the most in-depth interview she has ever given, Josie tells Charles about her fan story, her experiences with Chandler and her life since the Square One premiere.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Additional Links
The MJCast review of Square One, with commentary on Josephine Zohny.
#TheMJCast108: “Back to Square One”, an interview with Danny Wu.

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179: I’m Already Sick of the Biopic

Elise Capron and Charles Thomson team up to chat about all the latest news in the world of Michael Jackson and the Jackson family. They discuss developments with the Robson/Safechuck Defense team, the many delays on the Michael Jackson biopic, another possible MJ documentary brewing, a 3T tour, the recent re-release of The Wiz, Kingvention’s return to London, and much more.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Discussion Topics
• Jeff Margolis has passed away.
• Jennifer Keller has stepped down from the defense team in Robson/Safechuck case.
• The Michael Jackson biopic release date most likely been postponed until 2026.
• The Michael Jackson Estate has announced the annual MJ birthday event in Las Vegas, minus any actual details.
• Rabbi Shmuley is featured in a new Michael Jackson documentary.
• BET has released a HD clip of Michael Jackson’s 2003 BET Awards appearance with James Brown.
• 3T are set to tour Europe in July.
• The Wiz is being released in 4K.
• George Wendt has passed away.
• Brad Sundberg has just released an interview with Hayden Rose, an animal trainer who worked very closely with the animals at Neverland Valley Ranch.
• La Toya Jackson is appearing at the Catalina Jazz Club in LA on June 6 and 7.
• Kingvention returned to London.

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EXCLUSIVE: MJ the Musical Heading for Melbourne – Charlie Carter Reviews

After what seemed like a long wait since 2021 for Australian lovers of musical theatre, February 2025 saw MJ The Musical finally hit Australian shores at the Sydney Lyric Theatre, housed in the Star City Casino complex. The show had won 4 prestigious Tony Awards during it’s continuing run on New York’s Broadway and opened to enthusiastic crowds in London’s West End. Due to the success of the New York run, the show was taken on the road in the USA and will be again later in 2025 – extending into Canada too. But for Australian fans I can exclusively reveal that next week will see an official announcement that MJ The Musical will be coming to Melbourne later this year.

My source – who wishes to remain anonymous for obvious reasons – has told me that logistics for the cast and crew are being looked into, and that a theatre for the run has already been chosen. Though he could neither confirm nor deny, I believe it to be Her Majesty’s Theatre in Melbourne as there is a nice gap in the calendar that could be filled by an award-winning musical that is already in Australia.

By a little bit of luck, I ended up being able to go and see the show twice in the space of a few days last week here in Sydney – a colleague had won discounted tickets and had seen the show already, and wasn’t able to attend. She graciously offered them to us and my wife decided – as it was my birthday – to buy them for us. She then dutifully checked her emails to find she had also won discounted tickets for another show that week! “Do you want to go twice?!” she asked, knowing full well it wasn’t a question that needed an answer!

The first show was on a Tuesday night. We couldn’t believe our luck to find we were in the stalls – second row, towards the left hand side of the stage as we looked at it. The second show – Sunday lunchtime – we were in the dress circle, and honestly I can’t really tell you which one I preferred! I loved both seats for different reasons. I had never been so close to the front of a musical or any other show, save for once seeing The Darkness at The Enmore and a second row table seeing Kevin Bloody Wilson. Slightly different vibe there!

So what of the show itself? After all the hype, the awards, the reviews on shows like The MJCast, the controversy around the content from fans, the issues some members of the fan community have with the Michael Jackson Estate – primarily those that run it and what they produce – how can I give this show a succinct summary? The truth is, I can’t. I quickly realised within a few minutes of the start that I was going to have to look at this show from two viewpoints; that of an almost lifelong Michael Jackson fan who is now part of a team creating The MJCast and counts a member of the Jackson family as a friend, and that of a regular member of the public going to watch a musical.

As an MJ fan, there were issues. We have discussed on The MJCast the problems with some comments the show’s writer Lynn Nottage had made about Michael Jackson’s character (please do have a listen to those shows), but I will keep my review here based purely on what I saw in the show. The plot of the show is based around preparations in 1992 for the upcoming Dangerous World Tour, and Michael’s desire to create a dynamic and unique spectacle for his fans – complete with Toaster and rocket pack. Spoiler – we don’t see the rocket pack during the musical, and unlike the real Dangerous World Tour we don’t see “Michael” exit the show by flying said rocket pack over the crowd. Would have been difficult to pull that off in an enclosed theatre!

The issues that are apparent to fans won’t necessarily be as obvious or even noticeable to non-fans. For example, using songs such as Earth Song, 2 Bad, They Don’t Care About Us, Money, Stranger In Moscow, Tabloid Junkie – all not released until 1995’s HIStory album – in a story set in 1992 was interesting. Likewise, using the childhood Michael to sing songs that Michael released as an adult (Don’t Stop Til You Get Enough) was also a use of artistic licence. 

Those are minor details in comparison to factual inaccuracies such as the depiction of Michael Jackson’s drug dependency to get through the stress of rehearsals, when in reality the use and addiction didn’t come into play until well into 1993 and the Chandler allegations. Incidentally, these were alluded to with a simple line by one of the support staff in rehearsals when protesting Michael’s lavish ideas; “And who is this family he wants to bring on the tour?” though that could easily be referring to the Cascio’s who DID go on parts of the tour.

There were also suggestions in the show that Michael Jackson had to mortgage Neverland Ranch (with purported monthly running costs of $2million according to the show) in order pay for the extra staff, toaster and Rocket Pack, speakers and screens for the show. In 1992, Michael had only lived there for 4 years, had not yet built the train station or movie theatre, and had no money issues that would require him to re-mortgage Neverland to pay for any of this. Fans had issues with these aspects of the storyline as it painted Michael as in a state of desperation to achieve rather than a man at the top of his game just before the proverbial hit the fan in his personal life.

My friend and award-winning journalist Charles Thomson said on The MJCast during his review that at times the actor playing family patriarch Joseph Jackson also played Michael’s Tour Manager named “Rob” which was confusing. My wife commented that exact same thing because the very talented Derrick Davis switched between these characters, sometimes without leaving the stage and sometimes going directly from the dialogue of one into the dialogue of the other. This wasn’t exclusive to Joseph/Rob – many actors played multiple characters; Tito Jackson and Quincy Jones are played by Conlon Bonner, while Wonza Johnson plays Berry Gordy and “Nick”.

All that aside, MJ fans will enjoy the music and the passion that the cast bring to performing it on stage. The opening number is Beat It and Debbie Yap joins Michael on stage for an incredible live guitar solo – the closest I’ve ever heard to Eddie Van Halen’s original solo on the record. Liam Damons plays teenage/young adult Michael with energy and aplomb, nailing the dance moves and playing to the crowd. Josslynn Hlenti Afoa plays Katherine Jackson with compassion and sympathy, and unleashes a fantastic gospel choir voice at times in the show, being young Michael’s protector from Derrick Davis’s depiction of Joseph Jackson as a tyrannical father figure – abusively controlling over his family. 

While I’m on Joseph – early reviews suggested that the portrayal of Joseph as an evil man was over the top. Davis had a permanent scowl on his face while playing Joseph Jackson, and the scowl disappeared for “Rob” which was one way to discern which character was being played. I don’t know if the character has been toned down or not in the meantime, but aside from one moment in the show where Joseph struck childhood Michael (William Bonner) to the floor with a backhanded slap, to me it looked more like Joseph was depicted as a strict father with mostly stern words for his sons and threats/warnings to keep them in line, and disciplining them to be the best. Derrick Davis plays a difficult role very well, and remains likeable as Rob, if not so likeable as Joseph – resembling Mufasa in The Lion King, who Davis also played.

Roman Banks is outstanding as Michael Jackson. The moves are accurate, the inflections on the speech are great and the charisma is oozing out of him. From the stalls you know you are watching someone play Michael Jackson – from the dress circle, you sometimes think you are watching THE Michael Jackson. Apart from the obvious fact the the man has been gone for nearly 16 years, the only other thing that gave it away is that sometimes the speech was too whispery. The real man didn’t always use that breathy tone when he spoke, but let that take nothing away. Roman’s body language in all aspects of the show were the closest resemblance to the man I’ve seen in any show.

And that is a fairly detailed look at things as a Michael Jackson fan. The criticism from some of the media about the show is that it doesn’t address the demons in Michael Jackson’s later life – the allegations of criminal conduct. But it isn’t meant to. It is meant to be a piece of entertainment showcasing the musical talent and dancing ability of the greatest entertainer of all time. It is not meant to be a biography, and that is why artistic licence is taken. That is why 1995 songs appear in a musical set in 1992. That is why allegations in 1993, 2003 and a trial in 2005 aren’t mentioned. It is a story written by Lynn Nottage loosely based on a real person and parts of their very colourful life.

There are moments of comedy in there too. “If I don’t do these things, God will give my ideas to Prince.” Something Michael actually said in his life, but woven into a script to get a laugh. Firing a water pistol at his handlers to defuse tension, disguising himself and asking “Who’s Michael Jackson?” before revealing himself. In many ways the musical is a sympathetic telling of some of Michael’s personal struggles with people’s lies about him. In others, it completely destroys his character by suggesting he was a pill-popping nutcase that refused to take no for an answer. Neither of which is true to life, neither of which is meant to be.

And so how would I review the show as a regular member of the public going to see a musical? Well, I don’t pretend to be a connoisseur of musical theatre. I’ve seen We Will Rock You and Jersey Boys in London, Thriller Live and The Lion King in Sydney. MJ The Musical beats them all by far. As a piece of entertainment, complete with fantastic music woven into a story and performed with energy and passion I’ve never seen a musical like it. The only show I can compare it to is MJ One in Las Vegas which while also a project of the troublesome MJ Estate, was an outstanding world class spectacle itself.

The choreography is fantastic and keeps you engaged and amazed. While it is inspired by the original choreography of Michael Jackson’s songs there are subtle differences. The only song which is truly left to the real choreography is the one Michael Jackson performed on his own with no backing dancers – the iconic Billie Jean, complete with a silky moonwalk.

In conclusion, for the Michael Jackson fan this is a must see show – providing you are prepared to understand it is a fictional story based on the myth, not a biography of the man. You will notice the inaccuracies and they will frustrate you, but remove yourself from that and you will have a wonderful time enjoying the show. If you are a member of the public wishing to see an entertaining show with brilliant music, choreography and charisma you will quickly understand why MJ The Musical has won so many awards and is still running in New York and London. And until August, right here in Sydney. 

Australian fans, get your tickets and watch out for a fan gathering on 25th June – the 16th anniversary of Michael Jackson’s passing. As far as Sydney is concerned the show has a hard stop in August as Back To The Future moves into the Lyric Theatre in September. Demand has been plentiful – certainly enough to warrant extending the original May end date out to August instead. As things stand the final show will be 23rd August. You can’t help but feel that 29th August would have been an appropriate end date that would have had more fanfare. Why? Michael Jackson was born on 29th August 1958.

Meanwhile, I’m checking my calendar for later in the year when I can book a trip to Melbourne to visit family. And quite possibly Her Majesty’s Theatre for another viewing of this spectacular show. Remember, you heard it here first!

Article by Charlie Carter.

178: Jeff Margolis Special

Jeff Margolis joins Jamon Bull for a powerful, deep-dive interview about Margolis’ incredible career in television, and his work with The King of Pop.

Margolis is one of the most successful live TV event directors of all time, having worked on the Oscars, the Emmys, the Golden Globes, the Screen Actors Guild Awards and the American Music Awards. He has created TV specials with the likes of Cher, Julie Andrews, Dolly Parton, Frank Sinatra, Kenny Rogers and Richard Pryor; made movies with Ringo Starr and Quincy Jones; directed a music video for Whitney Houston. The roster of talent across his many TV projects has also included Ella Fitzgerald, Gladys Knight, Burt Bacharach, Gene Kelly, Smokey Robinson, Elton John, Barry Manilow, Lionel Richie, Prince, and many, many more.

Margolis’ career led him to cross paths with Michael Jackson numerous times. In 1989, he directed Sammy Davis Jr’s “60th Anniversary Special”, where Michael performed a specially written tribute song called “You Were There”. In 1993, Jeff directed the 20th annual American Music Awards, where Michael performed “Dangerous” for the first time, and won the inaugural International Artist Award, which was thereafter given annually in Michael’s name. In 1995, Margolis signed on as the director of Michael’s ill-fated “One Night Only” HBO special, which fell apart after Michael collapsed in rehearsals. Two years later, he directed “Happy Birthday Elizabeth” at the Pantages Theatre in Hollywood, where Michael once again performed a specially written song, “Elizabeth, I Love You”.

Michael and Margolis would collaborate again in 2001 for the hastily assembled United We Stand concert, organized within weeks to raise funds for the victims of the 9/11 terror attack in New York. Michael headlined the show, performing “Man in the Mirror” and assembling a glittering line-up for the only time “What More Can I Give” was performed in front of an audience. It would be the last time Michael Jackson ever performed for a stadium audience.

Margolis’ autobiography “We’re Live in 5: My Extraordinary Life in Television” has recently been released, and features many brilliantly told stories, with an entire chapter dedicated to Jeff’s work with Michael Jackson.

This episode was edited by Jamon Bull.

Additional Links
• Jeff Margolis’ website.
• Jeff’s autobiography, We’re Live in 5.
• Damien Shields’ article on “Michael Jackson: One Night Only”.

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177: Leaving Neverland 2 Roundtable

In 2019, a bomb exploded in the Michael Jackson world, when British TV director Dan Reed premiered a four-hour TV series about Wade Robson and James Safechuck – two men demanding millions of dollars from Michael Jackson’s posthumous estate as compensation for alleged childhood sexual abuse. A co-production between Britain’s Channel 4 and America’s HBO, the show generated months of scandalous, sensational and extraordinarily biased media coverage, much of it demanding the all-out cancellation of Michael Jackson.

For a while, that looked like a possibility – but ultimately, Jackson weathered the storm. His music streams went up instead of down. A Michael Jackson musical debuted on Broadway, won a string of awards and has become one of the highest grossing shows in New York theatre history. Its London transfer has just been nominated for three prestigious Olivier awards. New versions have now opened in Germany and Sydney. Meanwhile, Lionsgate has invested $150m in the most expensive Hollywood biopic of all time, Michael.

But six years later, Reed has re-emerged with a 49-minute sequel, subtitled Surviving Michael Jackson and focusing on Robson and Safechuck’s ongoing legal efforts to obtain hundreds of millions of dollars from Jackson’s estate. It premiered this week to substantially less fanfare than its predecessor and extremely poor viewing figures.

In this roundtable episode, a panel of experts react to the latest episode of Leaving Neverland and consider what it means for Michael Jackson’s legacy.

This episode was edited by Charlie Carter.

Participants
Charles Thomson – An award-winning crime reporter who has spent years investigating the Michael Jackson allegations, appearing in various books and documentaries.
Taj Jackson – Michael Jackson’s nephew and the Jackson family’s loudest voice against Leaving Neverland and the allegations it documents.
Anika Kotecha – A lawyer and co-founder of campaign group MJInnocent – which challenges biased and inaccurate reporting on the allegations against Michael Jackson – who was asked by Dan Reed to appear in Leaving Neverland 2.
Jenny Winings – A long-time fan who was on the defence witness list for Michael Jackson’s 2005 trial, appeared in the documentary Square One and is actually featured in Leaving Neverland 2.
Paul Black – A professional filmmaker and editor, who offers expert insight into the construction of the latest episode.

Additional Links
• The “Square One” documentary on YouTube.

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